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I found this site on MySpace and thought I would ask my question here rather than by email. What is wrong with our men and our women these days? Why are brothers so full of games when it comes to meeting a woman? Why do men mistreat their woman? Why is it that when you think you met a person of God they turn out to be a whole different person? I believe what the Bible says and Im sure this is mentioned. Why are women so fake? even those that say they are believers. I had a bad past relationship with a nonbeliever and I do not want to make that mistake ever again but it seems as though there are no good men and I can sort of sympathize with the women that settle for what they can. Why is this? how can I prevent making that mistake? If God wants men and women to be fruitful and multiply why is it so hard to do so righteously? Is it a sign of the times? or most men don't fear God?
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Shalam Blackrose and welcome!

Considering the present condition of the world, your questions could not have come at a better time. My reply will be given momentarily. Please be patient.

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Deut 28:54 "So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave"

Deut 28:56 "The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,"

These circumstances that many of us have experienced are due to the curses that came upon us for breaking God's laws. It is very hard to find a good wife or husband. But I feel that things are happening this way because people put more trust in a person than in God. People put their confidence in their spouse more than putting faith in God and the grace of Christ and with that the wisdom of God is overlooked. If we obey Christ's instructions this domestic problem will decrease. As far as people being fake, Thats just the nature of some people no different from a liar.
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Ok that makes sense. So how can I know if a person is really God fearing because I know I have to be taught and I have come across a few hypocrites. I feel I put my trust in God more than anything but it is very hard at times to understand Gods plan without a guide of some sort. I even try to turn to sisters for help and I have received the cold shoulder many times.
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Shalam Blackrose! I hope you read the disclaimer of the forum before asking your questions.

 

There are a few reasons why these problems prevail within our nation.  For one, the people that have the power to educate our people on this topic choose to rather exploit it and leave these issues unaddressed.

 

Isaiah 9:16-17 "For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

17 Therefore the LORD shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still."

 

As we see, our leaders (our men, teachers, elder sisters, authoritative figures) are a primary cause for the domestic folly that plagues our great nation. And because of the lack of righteousness performed within our nation, the Most High has withheld a portion of his mercy from us so we may learn the severity of disobedience. Without the laws and wisdom of Yahawah, EVERY endeavor has an expiration date upon it, even the blessing of marriage. Yes! women and men alike are mistreated because men and women do not or "don't always" follow God. Since women (most women) are physically weaker than men, they often get mistreated the most, but the numbers for women mistreating men (physically and emotionally) today are practically equal!!!.

 

Proverbs 29:18 "Where there is no vision (law and order), the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

 

So we see the Law of the Most High is the fiber that tightly weaves a relationship and creates the bond of unity needed to be successful (spiritually). Because the Laws of the Most High are oftentimes rejected (to make room for Oprah and Maury's reasoning!), the relationship does not develop the foundation needed to build upon which of course leads to destruction. Because the man is the head of the woman, it is his duty to learn of the Most High and be an example and reflection of the righteousness, wisdom and power of the Most High and teach them to his family (1 Cor 11:3, Tit 2:1-15). It is also the woman's duty to learn and be instructed by HER HUSBAND and not friends, family members and talk show logic. (1Cor 14:35, Tit 2:3-5, Prov 31:10-31).

However when the Bible is not at the center of the relationship, all goes sour because worldly foolishness and froward thoughts develop. A woman will tend to think being submissive means being weak or controlled and she will resist instruction. While a man thinks being the "head" means to be a frantic tyrant commanding respect through force instead of earning it. This type of relationship has Yahawah so far removed from it, it will crumble at lightning speed and the husband and wife will drown in this pool of iniquity along with their children because there is no righteous guide among them.  It is no coincidence that the numbers of divorces and seperations are rapidly rising.  Just because a person says they believe in God, this isn't enough when securing a spouse, it remains to be demonstrated. 

 

There are many reasons why one chooses the wrong mate: Physical appearance, money, sex, insecurity, loneliness, infatuation, false presentation, having things in common, status etc...  However NONE of these should be the premise to begin a marital relationship!!!! And I stress this!!

In my years committed to the truth of the Most High, I have seen many marriages and families easily remove the learned word of Yahawah to give place to emotion, pride and their own reasoning. It begins with pride and the failure to admit you're wrong. This is the largest thorn in a relationship because so much pride has accumulated in the individuals that they fail to see their own faults but choose to scrutinize their mate's offenses. It is easier to see other peoples faults rather than our own because our ego refuses to be exposed.

 

Ecclesiasticus 32:15 "He that seeketh the law shall be filled therewith: But the hypocrite will be offended thereat."

 

This is the point when verbal and physical abuse develops in order to destroy the opposing entity trying to unveil one's wrong doings. We must learn to be more sincere, patient and understanding to each other in order to survive this dilemma.

We must also understand that a wife or husband or "soulmate" is NEVER found, they are CREATED from the work of your own hands. People get caught up "looking for love in all the wrong places!" "TRUE" Love first begins with SELF and love towards The Most High and Christ. If you do not know how to first love yourself, how can anyone love you? What criteria do you set for love? This question is usually ignored and after the relationship develops many offenses occur because the love we desire was never understood or defined.  This is the importance of communication.  If you have no idea what you desire, who then can please you? People make this mistake with loving the Most High. They choose to love him from their own understanding rather than how HE TELLS US TO which is documented in the scriptures. The Bible tells us how to make our marriages successful but the rules only work if applied by ALL involved. Here are some Biblical steps to securing a strong foundation for a mate.

1) Learn and know yourself and iron out your flaws and align yourself properly with the Most High.

2 Cor 13:5 "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"

 

2) Christ shows us how a relationship should FIRST be considered.

Luke 14:28 "For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?"

 

The elements of a marriage should be considered just as one building a tower and arranging the materials. All things should be considered beforehand, ie: Current standing of faith and knowledge of the Most High in order to teach, true intention of the union, time with spouse, finances, children, even considering if one is presently capable. All these things must FIRST be considered. It's usually after consummation that these thoughts are pondered. As Christ said, if you intend to start it, then have every intent to finish (complete) it.

 

3) After all is considered, prove your potential spouse (which is called courtship) before consummation.

1 John 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets (professing to be a godly man or woman) are gone out into the world."

 

4) Ecclesiasticus 6:7 "If thou wouldest get a friend, prove him first, and be not hasty to credit him."

Don't be so quick to fall for someone in the beginning because everyone is on their best behavior. Take your time and allow everyday scenarios and adverse situations to occur and see how they maintain. How diligent are they with the commandments? determine if their faith seems strong or weak, what are their chief concerns, See how they act when alone, among their friends and family and your family etc..., their topics of conversation, what they do in their spare time, how they spend their money, what they read and watch on television etc... these things may seem trivial but they say a lot more about the person than they would let you know. It may take time to see this but "in your patience possess ye your souls."(Lk 21:19). It is better to take an unlimited amount of time to learn and discern a person than to spend years living in regret and discomfort. And we must understand that it is not acceptable to the Most High for men and women to "play the whore" and go from person to person trying to get it right! We must maintain an unprecedented demeanor representing and giving glory to the Most High.  This alone will ward off most negativity.

 

Ecclesiasticus 25:21 "Stumble not at the beauty of a woman, and desire her not for pleasure."

This is where many men and women fall. They get absorbed into the physical and emotional qualities and lustful thoughts of an individual, their reasoning becomes impaired and they begin to overlook the warning signs of the negativity in the person.

 

And the ultimate principle!!!!!

 

It is not wise to consider a person who does not keep the scriptures! We must understand that we are on the path of righteousness and the Most High's expectations of us is greater than our own.  And as children of the Lord, we have a criteria and must set the example.

 

5) Ecclesiasticus 37:12 "But be ye continually with a godly man, whom thou knowest to keep the commandments of the Lord, whose mind is according to thy mind, and will sorrow with thee, if thou shalt miscarry."

 

The Most High gives us the criteria for finding and securing a mate/friend and if we adhere to the "script"tures and apply faith and patience, we can have good success. As a whole, men must step up and be examples of the Most High and our women must also step up and claim their seat of virtuousness and honor seeing they are also the reflection of Christ. However, each individual must take responsibility for their choices and understand this....

Ecclesiasticus 13:16-17 "All flesh consorteth according to kind, and a man will cleave to his like. What fellowship hath the wolf with the lamb? So the sinner with the godly."

 

We are attracted to individuals because there is something within them that we see in ourselves, whether on the surface or tucked deep down within, be it positive or negative. When we align ourselves more with the spirit of the Most High, we will make wiser and more conscious discernment in judging character. Put Christ first and the people and things that are truly WORTH having, will be given.

 

John 15:5 "I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing."

 
Please do not think that a woman must be married to learn about the Most High there are many Israelite networks and churches available to learn at your discretion.  If you are in the Los Angeles area you may contact us for Class scheduling.
All teachers of the Most High are required to do the following...
 
Ecclesiasticus 4:10 "Be as a father unto the fatherless, and instead of a husband unto their mother: so shalt thou be as the son of the Most High, and he shall love thee more than thy mother doth."
 


 

 


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Thank you very very much for breaking it down like that! I may have been a little pushy and came across as some desperately seeking sister but I'm not. It just bothers me to hear my friends and coworkers tell their horror stories of their relationships and I can't offer them some understanding. I have made some poor decisions in my relationship so I kind of feel like how can I say anything? I am going to tell people about this site and thank you again I look forward to reading more info and asking more questions. How can I get your bible study info?
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SHALAM BLACK ROSE,
IF YOU GO TO THE CONTACT US TAB ON THE HOMEPAGE OF THE SITE, YOU'LL FIND THE PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL FOR BIBLE STUDY SCHEDULING.

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ok thank you so much!! God Bless!
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Oh My Gosh; and here all this time I thought that I was being to picky! this confirmed OHHHHHHHHHHH sooooo much for me. ( over joyed) 8 years of waiting has not been in Vain... Halleluyah!!!!!!!!


Lordwilling, One day I will visit L.A but If I never do; I know That I have family there.


Excellent thread; All praises to the Heavenly Father through Yahwahashi!


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Shalom Israel

Wow True Nation that was the best response. Scriptures say prove all things, and I must say that the fruits are truly evident. In spirit and in thruth right. That was so edifying for me, and truely all praise to the Most High for the increase. All praises
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Shalam and Welcome Shiphrah, we are glad that you have received edification through the spirit of Yahawashi (Christ) to whom we give all praises.
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I found this site on MySpace and thought I would ask my question here rather than by email. What is wrong with our men and our women these days? Why are brothers so full of games when it comes to meeting a woman? Why do men mistreat their woman? Why is it that when you think you met a person of God they turn out to be a whole different person? I believe what the Bible says and Im sure this is mentioned. Why are women so fake? even those that say they are believers. I had a bad past relationship with a nonbeliever and I do not want to make that mistake ever again but it seems as though there are no good men and I can sort of sympathize with the women that settle for what they can. Why is this? how can I prevent making that mistake? If God wants men and women to be fruitful and multiply why is it so hard to do so righteously? Is it a sign of the times? or most men don't fear God?


i feel you on this one.........its been 3 + yrs since my divorce and its been a ride believe that..........after my divorce i shut down so i wasnt looking for any companion to be with just someone, at the time, to just be with to soak up the sorrows of losing my family.  But dont get me wrong during all that time i was taking notes on the "female behavior" and its nothing nice. You lil ones (females) kill me. and im only referring to those who act like lil ones. but now that im seeking to build a family again the candidates out here are............well lets just say disappointing............
 
but if you know of a kween looking for a king let me know..........
im not tight on my scriptures like i use to b, but i do know that there is a verse that says something like ......."a good women is hard to find"
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Discern12 the scripture says this

Sirach 26:23 A wicked woman is given as a portion to a wicked man: but a godly woman is given to him that feareth the Lord.

A good wife or husband is not FOUND! They are GIVEN by YAHAWAH based on your actions. Brother if you know you are not as sharp with the word as you used to be, you are suffering a decline in your spirit and a spouse is the last thing you should be concerned with finding. This is why your search has been disappointing.

Sirach 13:16 All flesh consorteth according to kind, and a man will cleave to his like.

sharpen yourself back up in the knowledge and spirit and if YAHAWAH finds you fit he will give you what you ask for.

STAND UP!

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Cosigning Footsoliders comments. Discern12 do things in order my brotha. Scriptures tell you to do things decently and in order.

1 Cor 14:40 40Let all things be done decently and in order.
First things first make sure your right before you take the responsibility of leading and guiding others. Be it Wife,Mother, Brother, Friend etc.. Its important to get yourself sharpened and rooted. Its not good enough to present a form of holiness but in the end we're not right or practicing what we preach/teach. The Yahawashi pronounced destruction to hypocrites, and to blind leaders.
Matt 23:24-26
24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

 25Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.  26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

Also in our journey back to fearing the Most High and pleasing him he told us to trust in him and he'll direct our paths. So put Yahawah first and if your found worthy of a Wife so be it, until then continue to present your body as a living sacrafice (Rom 12:1) to the Lord and do your due diligence for repentance and salvation.

Rom 12:1-2
1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

 2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Shalam!
 
Prov 3:5-75Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

 6In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

 7Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.



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