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TheEclectic

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Shalom Yisrael, I know that the man is the head of his house but what authority does the wife have in making decisions in the family like her career, investments and furthering her education. If the husband feels that his wife should pursue a different career is it wrong? should he insist that she further her education if he thinks it is important? If she disagrees is that rebellion? How is this explained without the wife feeling like she's being treated like a child?
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TheEclectic, the wife must first clearly understand the God-given order and protocol. 

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Numbers 30:10-13

And if she vowed in her husband's house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath;

 11And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand.

 12But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her.  13Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void.

This law makes it clear that the wife must be in FULL subjection to her husband.  Any vow that a wife makes, (even to the MOST HIGH) her husband has the authority to approve it or make it void.  Oftentimes wives make decisions or speak on behalf of HERSELF, the family and husband, if the husband does not agree with such a decision he can make it void without debate.

After this is understood, she must be taught that a VIRTUOUS woman/wife will reverence/obey her husband by all means for she is an example of order and virtue.

1 Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

Ecclesiasticus 25:1
In three things I was beautified, and stood up beautiful both before God and men: the unity of brethren, the love of neighbours, a man and a wife that agree together

Ecclesiasticus 26:1
Blessed is the man that hath a virtuous wife, for the number of his days shall be double.

verse 26
A woman that honoureth her husband shall be judged wise of all; but she that dishonoureth him in her pride shall be counted ungodly of all.
 

virtuous

1. conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent; upright: socially chaste, unwavering faithfulness, loyal, obedient.

2. chaste: a virtuous young person

 

She must understand that a virtuous woman will undoubedly win the trust of her husband because she behaves and thinks wisely.

 

Proverbs 31:10-12

10Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. 11The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. 12She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

 

Her husband will trust that she will make wise decisions and act honorbly and will give her more liberty to make certain decisions regarding the family because she demonstrates wisdom.  Unlike a woman that acts the opposite he does not have to micromanage her.

 

Ecclesiasticus 26:24

A dishonest woman contemneth shame: but an honest woman will reverence her husband.

 

Ecclesisticus 26:14

A silent (humble) and loving (upright) woman is a gift of the Lord; and there is nothing so much worth as a mind well instructed.

 

a non-virtuous woman will RESIST instruction from her husband.
 

After she understands and BELIEVES that a virtuous woman is honorable in the eyes of the Most High, and the evil wife will receive the evil judgment, she will have no problem receiving LAWFUL instruction from her husband.  If her husband feels that she lacks certain needed skills, she will have no problem acquiring them.  If her husband feels that her present career is detrimental in some way or fashion and instructs her to change, she will obey.  Regardless if she disagrees she must still obey or else it becomes rebellion.  However a woman that has a history of behaving wisely will cause her husband to consider her words but ultimately she knows she must adhere to HIS final decision.

 

Romans 3:3-4

For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? (disrupt the laws and and order) 

4God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

 

We may not always agree but we are required to OBEY the protocal and orders of the scriptures without excuse.  If the wife behaves virtuously she will not be repeatedly corrected as a child would be.

 

1 Corinthians 14:20

Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children (innocent), but in understanding be men.

1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man (adult), I put away childish things.

The word of YHWH speaks to the young and old but A childish mind will understand as a child and unfortunately is treated as a child.  If the word is received with maturity they won't feel as a child.
 
Hope that helps!!


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GOOD QUESTION AND ANSWER.
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That explanation helped very much and thank you again.

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I got a question. What if a brothers wife feels she doesn't have to listen to certain things her husband says because another camp broke it down to her differently?
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Gaddite777, I will speak as though the man HAS NOT done wickedly:

That woman is in a direct violation of the Most High's order.  IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT WE POST IN OUR FORUM RULES THAT A MARRIED WOMAN SHOULD CONSENT HER HUSBAND BEFORE USING OUR FORUM OR ANY OTHER FORUM, WEBSITE, SOCIAL NETWORK, YOUTUBE, ETC...

The law commands that the wife's place of learning should be at home instructed by her husband. 

1 Corinthians 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Paul states that a MARRIED woman wishing to learn something should not even ask the elders in the congregation.  She must ask her husband.  If he does not know he must go and ask the elders and then teach it to his wife and she should patiently wait.  This enforces that authority is never usurped in the home.   Adulterous acts have been commited due to men teaching other men's wives... even over the INTERNET.  Private emails, conversations, texts, etc... have allowed different understandings and chaos to creep into homes creating confusion and wickedness.  A woman that has a husband in the faith of Christ has no excuse or reason to go and be taught elswhere.  

1 Peter 3:5
For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
A woman must follow HER husband and none else.  If she is conflicted in her understanding she must still obey HER husband and follow the order of resolving conflict (Matt 18:15-17)

2 Timothy 3:6
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

Some women are looking for scriptural leverage to use against their husbands when they are not satisfied with the decisions their husbands have made.  Some are looking for power in the home.  This is called the EVE syndrome, recorded in Genesis chapter 3.  Examine...


Genesis 3:6
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

The lesson shows us that when the order is disrupted, Satan is right there to offer the dissobedient wife something SHE THINKS is more appealing to her growth and spiritual development which she will in turn bring it into the house.

  


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ok yea I should of been clearer.  This is what happened a wife listened to a camp that believed we had to leave america but her husband didnt believe that so she got really mad and felt she didnt have to listen to him because he didnt care about her safety.  She didnt want to stop listening to that camp after the husband told her not to.  how does your camp know if the woman is married or not?  Its hard to tell on the net.  How do you know if your not breaking your own rules?
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@ Gadite777 , My last reply still stands for the example you gave.  The woman is out of order regardless.

You are right Gadite777 we do not know if the female contributers to our site and forum are married or even male or female for that matter, we can only exhort brothers and sisters to be HONEST and comply with scriptural protocol.   A married woman that has to disguise herself to visit a congregation's website is still a liar and considered ungodly and VIRTUE-LESS.  This is enough to know her intentions are ILL.  Although everyone uses screen names which gender or marital status cannot be determined, order and HONESTY is still a mandate to being in the SPIRIT of Christ.

Ecclesiasticus 7:13
Use not to make any manner of lie: for the custom thereof is not good.

Ecclesiasticus 20:26
The disposition of a liar is dishonourable, and his shame is ever with him.






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I totally agree!

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